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so eric do you want to tell us a little

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bit about your background and i know

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that i feel like you're qualified to

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look at any kind of uh conspiracy land

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evidence whether it be ufos or bigfoot

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and tell us your opinions but can you

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tell us a little bit about i know you

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have been so deeply involved in ufo

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stuff for you know probably decades but

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you did recently switch some of your

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focus to the world of bigfoot right

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yeah i was about a year and a half ago

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but you got in deep now haven't you

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gotten in deep you've been really like

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uh yeah i went real deep

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and then the last few months so i pretty

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much haven't been doing any research on

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anything i've just been kind of laying

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low because i'm kind of burned out do

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you ever get burned out i mean i'm

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imagining all the time yeah all the time

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sometimes i just need to go

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and not

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disconnect for a while yeah yeah so i've

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been in the disconnect mode the last

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month or two but but i'm getting amped

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up to go back to some of these spots in

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montana and utah and idaho where

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and there's california and oregon and

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washington state i mean there's many

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areas where i believe personally that

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there are bigfoot i mean that's just my

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belief i've i've talked to no i'm glad

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because it's good i don't want to just

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have skeptics look at this uh footage

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and offer their opinion if you actually

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believe that bigfoot is probably real

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then

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even better for you to look at this

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footage and tell us do you think it's a

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real

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living breathing creature or something

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else

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but okay and the other thing real quick

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is uh it to me i've learned quickly that

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the bigfoot community is a lot like the

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ufo community is that i'm learning that

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myself there's a lot of similarities

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right there's a lot of hoaxers there's a

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lot of wanted people that want to be

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popular that uh they call them blob

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squatches where they'll have a video or

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a picture that's all blurry and [\h__\h] and

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you can't even tell really what it is

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yeah but they make a 30-minute video

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about it and people everybody just kind

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of co-signs everybody's story it's kind

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of i don't know i can't get into that

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it's like the ufo community you know

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they show a video of lights in the sky

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and then they have a 30 minute story

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about you know well i saw

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it looked i could see it much more

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clearly with the naked eye than you see

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on the film and it was definitely saucer

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shaped and this and that yeah a lot of

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similarities between these two

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communities

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well did i ever tell you my bigfoot

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story or did you hear it i think i told

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it yeah i i

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i did hear the story so you believe that

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you had a personal encounter with

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bigfoot uh and that's interesting

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and yeah i thought the story was pretty

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interesting but i want to go back to

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that spot happy jack arizona it's about

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7 700 feet up in arizona on the mogeon

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rim which you've probably heard of the

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mogyon monster i don't know if you've

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heard that term yes i have absolutely

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yeah many many stories about

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bigfoot sightings and experiences on the

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mogeon and uh even even clifford mahudi

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who's passed recently uh

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you know like a lot of these a lot of

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these stories i try to verify to the

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older guys and that i trusted and

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unfortunately half of them have died in

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the last six months you're passing away

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yeah unfortunately yeah recipes called

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mahoney

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yeah but uh yeah so um

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but that night that we

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had the night after okay the night that

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we had that ufo sighting where that orb

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i think i've sent you that you might

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have seen that video that we filmed but

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i call it orb because it didn't appear

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to have a solid shape to it it was just

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a massive glowing ball that was just

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kind of uh

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it it wasn't a didn't look like a solid

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object although who knows it could have

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been but it was just floating and it was

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huge it was about maybe

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a couple hundred three or four hundred

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feet up in the sky uh

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but that night after that that was about

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eight o'clock at night when we saw that

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and then we were seeing stuff in the sky

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that looked could have been ufos

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i don't think there were satellites um

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the mount that we saw i don't think

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could have been our technology because i

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don't i can't imagine why we'd be flying

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that much technology on the mogeon rim

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in the middle of nowhere yeah yeah it

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just didn't make sense to me but uh but

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i can't tell you for certain it's you

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it's aliens but

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i certainly think that anyway but that

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night later that night it was uh around

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10 or 11 o'clock and we were hanging out

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the campsite john polk

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uh your your friend there uh actress rod

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where is rah

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and his girlfriend uh i forget her name

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off the top of my head

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but anyway uh we we were hearing sounds

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in the forest probably about 50 to 75

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yards out and uh

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every time i tried to record with my

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cell phone the sounds that sound like

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chatter like maybe two or three

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and um

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every time i tried to record it it would

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stop which was kind of trippy

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and the third

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three times it happened over a period of

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not very long like 15 minutes and then

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finally it just stopped all together

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but then it was the next day uh

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they left the uh

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bra and his girlfriend left but john

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polk and i stayed and then that's when

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so yeah you know what i saw

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that was it that was what got me going

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after that i thought i got to look at

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this because this is real i mean it's

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not like you know

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you've been connecting in with the whole

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bigfoot community so i'm not as

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connected in can you give me a sense of

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what most of these bigfoot people think

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of todd standing and his

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let's call it research some of them uh

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some of them just kind of stay neutral

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but the one guy that i trust that's

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probably the best bigfoot guy his name

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is duke sullivan on world bigfoot radio

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yeah do you ever want to have the if you

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really want to have the in my opinion

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the best most knowledgeable bigfoot guy

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on your show that i could i could

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arrange that duke soul yeah i would love

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to i i've heard some of his stuff i

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would love that yeah absolutely

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yeah so he was uh

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so opinions are mixed about todd

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standing and his so-called research

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yeah but this duke sullivan isn't buying

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the guy and and here's here's how i

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believe well it's like anything it's

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like okay let's say somebody comes out

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with a story we'll just todd standing

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you look who he aligns himself with who

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who who are his uh

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people in the community that he kind of

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uh co-signs will say and jeff that guy

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meldrum dr jeff meldrum i'm aware yeah

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and he kind of co-signs that guy's uh

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stuff but

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the the real experts in my opinion of

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the bigfoot community think that meldrum

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is like a plant

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yeah and i i have i have a source that

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tells that tells me that jeff meldrum

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was paid to be a part of the documentary

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jeff meldrum because something that i

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found incredibly suspicious is that

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jeff meldrum is in this documentary

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sort of like you said to add credibility

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and co-signing however he doesn't

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comment on whether he believes that

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footage is a real

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living breathing bigfoot or not in the

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documentary though todd standing drops

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his name every chance that he gets and i

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believe that's to add credibility to it

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yes yes so it's outstanding okay

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i don't dislike the guy but i don't like

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him either i he's he i could tell he's

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not a real good manipulator i mean i

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don't know if you've listened to a lot

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of his stuff i

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he kind of reminds donald trump of

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bigfoot i mean he he appeals to stupid

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okay i'll say this about standing

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because of where he lives

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maybe either seen a bigfoot or seen

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evidence of a bigfoot whether it be

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footprints now broken trees is one thing

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but the tree structures that i sent you

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pictures of what you're welcome to put

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on your show that you do you and i yeah

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i'll include those sure yeah those uh i

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saw those in person i mean these things

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these trees are huge and they're stuck

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uh with no roots anywhere in the air

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they were put there there's no way

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that they fell there i'm just telling

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you i mean i was looking for every

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reason i could to debunk how these

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things got there not that i wanted to go

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there to debunk it but i'm just thinking

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in my own mind i've got to be able to

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convince myself that that there's no

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other possibility you know what i mean

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that this happened any other way then

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somebody put it there and these things

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but anyway uh

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i don't know that standings put out a

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lot of tree structure pictures i haven't

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really looked into scenery i've seen

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some and any and he's fond of showing

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people a break in a tree and saying that

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the sasquatch did it without any

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evidence or proof

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that it was actually broken by a

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sasquatch it's just

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he does it seems to me that he does his

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research by proclamation

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like that's got to be done by a

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sasquatch couldn't be any other reason

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and he has no evidence to offer other

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than

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his very strong opinion that it must

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have been a sasquatch

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yeah i mean uh here's the thing uh i i

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again i haven't really done a deep dive

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into him i i just i've watched how he

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talks to his people on his youtube

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channel

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i've looked at his video

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uh personally i i can't imagine that

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that video those pictures of those

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supposed bigfoot i can't imagine that

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they're real because

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he would be the only guy in the world in

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the history of the world that's ever

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recorded a picture that good a bigfoot

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think about that for a minute how is

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that even possible i just don't believe

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it i don't believe it's possible

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i think if if if they were as easy to

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record as what he shows on his uh you

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know

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deal then other people would have

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recorded pictures as well

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it kind of he kind of puts himself out

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there like he's a superstar

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like you hear one of the big things yeah

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he's gonna be

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covering bigfoot he's working on the

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biggest discovery in the universe that

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will change

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human history

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he's a hero kind of like the people in

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the ufo community always make themselves

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always make yourself the hero of the

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story right

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right

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and i don't know footage back to the

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footage i i haven't told you

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just just so the audience is aware i

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haven't told you or anybody else that is

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offering your opinions here what i think

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of the actual footage because i don't

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want to influence you

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i want to hear

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your thoughts on on each of them before

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you know even what i think about them so

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i ca i can you know we can go through

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them go ahead yeah we can go through

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these one one by one and you you can i'm

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gonna just play them without the sound

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though because we don't need the music

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interfering with your voice or you know

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whatever

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all right uh we'll we'll play this one i

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called

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there's two with the faces this one i

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called bigfoot face one

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and uh this is one of the money shots

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from his documentary which he has been

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profiting from not only from the

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documentary but he is continually

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reusing this footage on his monetized

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okay i'll comment um

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first of all i couldn't tell you 100

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for certain that that's a hoax however

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my intuition tells me it is and and the

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reason why

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is it's quite frankly it's too good to

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be true that's just my theory on that

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and i think that

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i don't think it's my opinion that it's

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possible

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to get a to get a quality video or

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picture of a real bigfoot that good

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i just don't think it's possible i think

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that these creatures are real

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i don't know what they are i don't know

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i don't know that they're flesh and

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blood or their combination flesh and

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blood and interdimensional or extra i

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don't i don't know what they are exactly

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but i do believe they're smart enough

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and they they have a certain sensory

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maybe about them that they wouldn't

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allow themselves ever to be photographed

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or videotaped like that i just don't i

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just don't think that he's smart enough

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to trick him he kind of he that's why

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i'm saying he puts himself out like a

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hero like

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he's this only guy ever that was smart

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enough to figure out how to trick these

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guys into recording them i just can't

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buy it i mean i could be wrong but i

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don't think i am i just think it's fake

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okay well no that's fair enough yeah

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fantastic evidence or fantastic hoax

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those are the only two possibilities

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major possibilities

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and uh we can show the next one and then

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but i wanted to believe just so you know

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when i first yeah i did too

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somebody before the documentary came out

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somebody sent me a still of of

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of that and i went wow yeah that looks

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great where's it from and then they

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explained it to me and and here we are

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but i will go to the next one which is

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again

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face footage and

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of course i'm calling this project is

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this the face of bigfoot uh he's got

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multiple faces of bigfoot

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and here is the second one

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uh which again

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another money shot from the documentary

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but that one looks completely fake to me

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that one the other one

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i i wouldn't bet my life that it's fake

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but that one looks fake to me i just i

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just not feeling that that one neither

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one of those two am i feeling those at

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all that's just my opinion though

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yeah

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but you know

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yeah i don't think so i i honestly uh no

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don't

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no

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do you have any idea how he could have

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faked that i know you don't have like a

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back that looks like that looks like a

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mask or a costume mask or something that

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whoever made it

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it just he plopped it over his face it

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covers his cheeks but whatever mouth

395
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that is that that's whoever the hoaxer

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is that's the hoaxer's mouth

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that one you're showing me right there

398
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that looks

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that that one right there looks like

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it's like he just slipped over the top

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of him some sort of a

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pre-made

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costume mask but it's a good one

404
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generally that would be called like an

405
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open jaw mask or something like that

406
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yeah sure i heard that his girlfriend or

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ex or whoever she is

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it was a makeup artist i don't know if

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that's true sister yeah there's reports

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that his sister was a makeup artist and

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and did some special effects or

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something like that he denies that

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however

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yeah

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i've seen him

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knowing that

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uh

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todd's an interesting guy he's kind of

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quirky and

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i'm not talking [\h__\h] about the guy i'm

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just saying he's just he's different

422
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he's a different kind of dude he's he's

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not

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he's just kind of strange to me i i just

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uh

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he just

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that wouldn't be legit it just that's

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just my

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yeah yeah i mean i got that feeling

430
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about corey good from the very beginning

431
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too i mean when i watched the very first

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time i didn't even really follow david

433
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wilcock i never believed in wilcock to

434
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begin with

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and i didn't even care much about

436
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wilcock or corey good in the beginning

437
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when they first came out with that

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cosmic disclosure because i just

439
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but then they became popular and then so

440
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i got then i then that's when i started

441
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looking into it and i was trying to

442
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figure out you know how could i uh but

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yeah i mean

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some of these guys like you know wilcock

445
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and good and and if you look at their

446
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personalities and how they conduct

447
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themselves and their their mannerisms

448
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and how they talk to people and

449
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their texts and their tells and they all

450
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kind of have the same kind of uh they

451
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kind of fit into this little category of

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of oddness of i don't even know the

453
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right word

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but these

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i just in my gut i just don't uh feel

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but you know it's sad because uh

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first of all i do believe ufos are real

458
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i don't i don't know that the reptilians

459
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are here uh or graves are here eating

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babies

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yeah i don't you know i i don't i

462
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couldn't sign up for that but i could

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tell you that i do believe in bigfoot i

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mean that that i i'm pretty convinced

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that that it's real you know i've seen

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enough i've heard enough i've talked to

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people matter of fact did you know the

468
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fbi did a report about this many years

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ago

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about bigfoot yeah i would put that in

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your notes so that would be something

472
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yeah i have i have that i have that uh i

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have those files probably

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and i have a friend that uh i have a

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friend that

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uh he doesn't have anything to do with

477
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ufos and bigfoot but

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i i verify that the report is real

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so it's not a fake report

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right i kind of

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i tend to believe that the government

482
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just like they know about you know ufos

483
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and what they know about aliens

484
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maybe

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you know

486
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rick dodie's uh a friend of mine and and

487
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i don't

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hard to

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if i didn't know dodie and i didn't i i

490
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it's hard to believe some of the stories

491
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that he tells doesn't mean that i don't

492
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believe them it's just that they're hard

493
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to believe

494
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absolutely well we've got one more face

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of bigfoot to show you

496
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all right uh this one is what i called

497
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the blackface uh video

498
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uh and and again we're trying to get to

499
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the proof of is this uh the face of

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bigfoot

501
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this is again footage from todd standing

502
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well it would be so easy just to put

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something there and just record it from

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a distance you know i'm saying that one

505
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right there it could be just something

506
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it's not evidence i mean i guess it

507
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could be but it's not evidence to me you

508
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know what i'm saying

509
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to me evidence would be um

510
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one moving like like like the patterson

511
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gimlin i personally think that that's i

512
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know you maybe you don't believe that

513
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it's a real video but i

514
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i personally believe it's a patterson

515
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gilman's a real video no i'm still in

516
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the i'm still on the fence of that one

517
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yeah i i'd love to believe it was real

518
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you know but this one i i thought was

519
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the weakest of the of the

520
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face of banquet videos

521
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and i i guess i also have a problem with

522
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the complexion issue because eric if you

523
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look if you look at orangutans in nature

524
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they all have the same general skin

525
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color if you look at chimpanzees they

526
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all have the same general skin color

527
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gorillas all have the same general skin

528
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color

529
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so if he's filming real a real species

530
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here

531
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why does one have black skin and the

532
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other have white or you know peachy skin

533
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or light colored skin

534
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i mean certainly there'd be some

535
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variation in yeah and differences but

536
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not this drastic to me you've got three

537
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different uh pictures you've shown me so

538
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far and they're all three completely

539
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different

540
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they look like they could they could be

541
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completely different species that's the

542
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problem that i have they look like three

543
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different different animals or types of

544
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eight

545
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you know

546
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i think this is where todd's ego and i'm

547
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speculating this is where todd's ego got

548
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the best of him if i were gonna hoax

549
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something like this for example

550
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i would have stuck with that first image

551
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i would have and then maybe if i was

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going to try to build up my portfolio of

553
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,799
fake bigfoot videos i would have used

554
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:02,720
that same image but maybe in a different

555
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,080
way but by him introducing the image to

556
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:08,400
an image tree that you've shown

557
00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:11,200
that just to me drives the odds of those

558
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:14,000
being real even further away from the

559
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,200
truth because

560
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,120
what are the chances that one guy is

561
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:19,200
going to not only film one but three of

562
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,840
them that well i just just don't believe

563
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:24,000
and apparently three different species

564
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,760
of some more subspecies of bigfoot and i

565
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,520
i wanted to show you something because i

566
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,760
thought i nailed how he did

567
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,159
this specific video because i have an

568
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,640
extensive collection of masks and weird

569
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:37,919
things

570
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:40,400
and when i saw that i went

571
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,120
that i think i have that mask and here

572
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:45,200
i'll i'll solo myself i'm going to show

573
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:46,840
you this

574
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,080
oh there it is i love it look at that

575
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:52,880
isn't it yeah yeah if you wanted to show

576
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:55,760
a blackface gorilla-like creature

577
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,799
obscured and only this part of the face

578
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,480
is shown in there yeah

579
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:03,039
where is black then you see one eye

580
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,480
blinking uh this may be a good way to do

581
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:08,960
it you know who knows

582
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:11,200
i went running into my

583
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:14,799
garage full of boxes of old masks

584
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,200
and i thought this uh is a very good

585
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,760
possibility for how one could film

586
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:21,440
something like that

587
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,320
right

588
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:23,760
yeah

589
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:24,720
the the

590
00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:27,679
the broad ridge of the nose the black

591
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:28,880
skin

592
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:31,679
and uh i even went and tried to line up

593
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,240
the brow ridges but i i don't i don't no

594
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:36,400
longer think that he used something like

595
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:37,280
this

596
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:40,480
i think that one is a man in black face

597
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,039
that's that's it just black makeup and

598
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,440
obscure it as much as possible

599
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:47,919
um you know but we have one more video

600
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,919
to look at which is i called it the

601
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,000
running man video i think

602
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,000
um and this one does not show the face

603
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,760
of bigfoot but apparently shows a

604
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,080
bigfoot running up a mountain so yeah i

605
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,760
want to see this one again

606
00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:01,360
i'm going to share that one and i want

607
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:04,380
you to tell us your thoughts on this one

608
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,630
and again this is from todd standings

609
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,039
discovering bigfoot this is

610
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:15,280
part four running bigfoot of his money

611
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,430
this is a crouching bigfoot also part of

612
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:39,039
the same video

613
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,799
apparently neither one of those videos

614
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,720
are very uh

615
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,240
they're not real

616
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,320
and they're not convincing

617
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:48,400
no yeah that's what i thought i thought

618
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,799
it could be anything off in the distance

619
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,480
here's the thing i think standing

620
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,720
appeals to people that are not real

621
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,039
educated on the topic because

622
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:59,120
if you're to me like the bigfoot the

623
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,559
real bigfoot researchers that i've

624
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:02,240
talked to and the research that i've

625
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,760
done so far

626
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:05,919
i don't think it's possible to capture

627
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,000
bigfoot in these modes that he's showing

628
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,240
like running and crouching down and then

629
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,320
he said i think he said that it was

630
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,039
eight feet tall or it was 600 pounds and

631
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:16,799
that one video that that one right there

632
00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:19,360
where it's crouching down i mean

633
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,919
where's the evidence that i mean

634
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,200
i don't know that how he can even

635
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:24,960
justify i don't see how he could prove

636
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,200
that it's eight feet tall and 600 pounds

637
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:28,960
i mean well again it's researched by

638
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,480
proclamation you know yeah yeah yeah

639
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:34,720
it's and yeah yeah i don't know i mean

640
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,000
[\h__\h] i the chances of a guy

641
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,640
uh getting five different videos of a

642
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,039
bigfoot in a lifetime

643
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:44,960
it would have to be almost a miracle i

644
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:49,279
mean yeah it just uh it just again

645
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:50,720
the problem that i have with this one

646
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,000
too is it showed two videos or two or

647
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:56,640
maybe three but to go he i think he

648
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,799
tried to milk it a little too much and i

649
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,400
think it's backfiring on him that's just

650
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,880
my take yeah and and the problem that i

651
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,480
have with this video in particular is

652
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:06,559
the framing of it it seems convenient

653
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,360
that we don't get a full view

654
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,120
well here the crouching part we do but

655
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,520
in the running part we see like half a

656
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,440
bigfoot body through most of it or just

657
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,600
a pair of legs running up a mountain

658
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:19,679
that appear to be dark i mean that could

659
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:22,080
be a guy in a in a suit it could be

660
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:23,200
anything

661
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,080
so

662
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,159
that one was the least convincing of the

663
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,400
four videos to me the first

664
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:30,559
question stephen let's say you were todd

665
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,000
standing you're out there let's just

666
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,919
pretend that this was real and you're

667
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,440
seeing this creature and you're filming

668
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,760
it from a distance okay let's go let's

669
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,600
talk about the picture of number one or

670
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,720
number two or number three one of those

671
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,840
pictures

672
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,840
and you believe you're looking at it and

673
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,279
you're on it you're sitting there you're

674
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,080
hiding in the bushes whatever

675
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,480
i mean in my mind i don't know would you

676
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,880
would you not stay there until either

677
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:54,960
you ran your battery died you ran out of

678
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,230
you gotta record that thing until it

679
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,200
moves again or is it gonna i mean for an

680
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,679
hour two hours whatever it takes that's

681
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,919
the chance of a lifetime but yet he only

682
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,679
shows these pictures in these videos for

683
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,200
what less than two minutes right less

684
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,840
than a minute yeah and another thing

685
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:17,919
that i found a problem with is

686
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,120
that the face videos those if they're

687
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,200
real creatures appear to be

688
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:25,919
just sitting there very docile

689
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,480
not threatening so to me if if you're

690
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,159
really filming that why wouldn't you

691
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,799
walk closer to it with the camera

692
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,600
right try to get it try to get it moving

693
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:37,039
or running off

694
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:39,679
if you got too close and you spooked it

695
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,799
these these these footages appear to be

696
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:45,600
very staged and and also

697
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:48,400
conveniently obscured each of the

698
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:51,279
face videos there's something leaves

699
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,640
sticks

700
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,799
tree branches there's always something

701
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,279
obscuring the image and it seems

702
00:26:03,110 --> 00:25:59,520
very convenient that he's

703
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,120
got and there's also multiple shots

704
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,880
a lot of people aren't aware of this but

705
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:07,039
i found that many people are claiming

706
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,080
that he

707
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:10,159
basically did multiple takes of each of

708
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,080
these videos because there's other

709
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,480
stills where the sticks are moved

710
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:16,559
and there's different things obscuring

711
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,919
the faces

712
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,520
and that would indicate that he did

713
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:22,080
multiple takes and he doesn't realize

714
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,360
you can't take

715
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,279
stills from the other

716
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,279
takes and publish them because they'll

717
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:30,159
differ from the ones in the documentary

718
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,440
that's a problem huge problem

719
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:35,200
yeah

720
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:41,039
say recently that uh

721
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,159
you know you could you come to my

722
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,840
house or whatever

723
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,200
that's his business

724
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,919
i'll show you a bigfoot

725
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:51,440
that's a bold statement isn't that a

726
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:54,080
bold statement yeah he says you'll see a

727
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,200
bigfoot

728
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:57,840
eric i don't know how much it is but but

729
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,640
maybe we should send to you

730
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,039
actually wouldn't that be a trip if you

731
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,600
i got my passport well i could get to it

732
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:07,279
he would allow me to you know what he

733
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:08,159
does

734
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,840
there you know that right

735
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:13,840
i did not know that yeah so he tries to

736
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,480
keep the skeptics out right

737
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,320
yeah he kind of screens his people just

738
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,480
like that other guy that i sent you that

739
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:23,039
other tweet the other day that uh dr

740
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,799
johnson kind of screens out who he

741
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,799
allows

742
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:28,640
look i'm not i'm not sure if i can

743
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,520
afford to help because i i have heard

744
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,440
different things about how much he

745
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,600
charges people one person told me that

746
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,000
it's like a thousand dollars he charges

747
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,039
and it's all like crystal hippie girls

748
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:43,600
from california and stuff that that pay

749
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,720
him and go

750
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,240
hiking with them i don't know if that's

751
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,399
the case but we'll we'll look into it

752
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,320
and see how much does he charge right

753
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,000
let's see if i can do that

754
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,919
because if we could send you and then

755
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:56,000
you can come back and tell us exactly

756
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,919
what you got for the money he's

757
00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,840
literally promising people a bigfoot

758
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,000
encounter for money i have a big problem

759
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:04,000
with that yeah i have a that's actually

760
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,120
that's

761
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,120
that statement right there is what

762
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,520
totally blows his cover because uh it

763
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,360
doesn't work like that bro you i mean

764
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:13,120
you know that i know i'm just telling

765
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,799
you

766
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,880
there's no such i just don't believe it

767
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,200
there's no way that i that he's got some

768
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,760
private area where the bigfoot let him

769
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:23,840
record and that he could bring people to

770
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:26,399
see him i just the chances of that are

771
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:28,799
like that's pretty out there it's pretty

772
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:31,039
out there and if there's people out

773
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,799
there that actually saw bigfoot while

774
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,399
they're hanging out with todd stanley

775
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,559
where are they why are they not out

776
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,240
there talking about it where where's the

777
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,559
testimonies where's the point

778
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,640
i did not i did not think of that you

779
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,600
know if i went there if i went there and

780
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:48,159
i saw tree structures and i saw

781
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,600
something that i thought was a bigfoot

782
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,039
or i heard sounds all right in other

783
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,880
words if if there was evidence that

784
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,799
convinced me that maybe there really is

785
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,039
a bigfoot here i would be [\h__\h] on

786
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:58,799
your show talking about it big time i

787
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,840
would be yeah i have not i have not put

788
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:04,000
you know i i've i put out a call on my

789
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:06,399
show you know it's a long shot but

790
00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:08,480
saying hey if you've if you've gone on

791
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:11,919
one of these hikes with uh with him then

792
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,080
you know contact me i want to hear about

793
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:15,679
your experience do you feel like you got

794
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,039
your money's worth did you really

795
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,960
encounter a bigfoot as he promised

796
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:20,000
crickets

797
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,440
um but you know one thing that was

798
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:23,360
interesting too is one of his other big

799
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:24,840
uh

800
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,679
big something that he calls evidence is

801
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:30,000
he has videos where he puts apples out

802
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,279
on a log

803
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,279
and then he's like see the bigfoot are

804
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:35,039
taking the apples there's one bigfoot

805
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,720
over here and there's another sasquatch

806
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,559
over here there's three of them

807
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:39,840
and then

808
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,240
off in the distance you see an apple

809
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,240
sort of disappear from a tree and he's

810
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,559
saying that's a bigfoot i found it

811
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,039
interesting that a random youtuber i

812
00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:51,279
found did go hiking with him

813
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,159
and uh one of the things was that there

814
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,720
was a bigfoot glove in the guy's back

815
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,399
seat of his truck

816
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,039
and i instantly connected that to these

817
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:03,760
various videos of him claiming that

818
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:06,399
sasquatch is taking the apples even

819
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:08,720
though in those videos they're so blurry

820
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,279
and unclear you can't clearly see a hand

821
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,600
of a bigfoot but if i was going to fake

822
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,919
a bigfoot taking apples off of a log of

823
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,960
a tree

824
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,799
i would think having a bigfoot glove

825
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,480
would be a good way to do it right you

826
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:22,960
crouched down behind the lob you reach

827
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,520
up with the bigfoot hand on a glove on

828
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:27,120
and take an apple

829
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,000
um

830
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,000
that's very suspect to me why is this

831
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,159
guy who claims to be filming real

832
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,159
bigfoot creatures have a bigfoot glove

833
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,559
in the back seat of his truck that's a

834
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:37,919
problem for me

835
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,360
yeah yeah and i think also because he's

836
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,440
in he's in canada right

837
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:46,240
i think canada british columbia yeah

838
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,120
i think that for whatever reason uh

839
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,360
in his mind and it seems apparent that

840
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,600
he's able to uh

841
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:55,440
have get away with things well i don't

842
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,559
know if he's actually getting away with

843
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,630
he's able you know what i'm saying he

844
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,320
could he could he could run some more

845
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,200
shenanigans more so than if he was if he

846
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,200
was a u.s guy doing all that like in

847
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,600
washington state or oregon or whatever

848
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,120
i think he'd have more problems yeah

849
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,799
because the problem becomes

850
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,799
international complaints like

851
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,039
what what what happens if let's say a

852
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:18,880
bunch of people from california go up to

853
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:20,799
british columbia pay him whatever he

854
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,279
charges and they feel ripped off

855
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,880
who do they report that to their

856
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:26,720
american citizens so there'd have to be

857
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,320
like literally there'd have to be

858
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:31,360
international cooperation to investigate

859
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,399
the situation

860
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,720
and decide whether criminal charges are

861
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,200
warranted or you know who knows you're

862
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,360
right it complicates everything well you

863
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,519
know what would be interesting too

864
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,039
if he was doing this that would be

865
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:45,600
pretty ballsy but let's just say he's so

866
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,120
confident that people are going to see

867
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,799
the bigfoot when they come to visit him

868
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,080
maybe what if

869
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,480
what if he was hoaxing the experience

870
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,399
and and tricking these people into

871
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,760
thinking that

872
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:57,760
they're seeing this you could very

873
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,720
easily have a confederate we and when i

874
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,320
was doing magic shows we call that a

875
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,279
stooge you have somebody working for you

876
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,840
to help you trick the audience i i used

877
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,240
to do a lot i used to do a lot of weird

878
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,000
stuff with stooges you know i'd have a

879
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,600
guy come up on stage and i would do a

880
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,919
card trick and i would touch him a lot

881
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,440
he was in on it

882
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,200
but

883
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,120
the whole thing was is after the card

884
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,880
trick and and i would make it very

885
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,240
obvious to the audience that i was

886
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:26,080
touching him a lot stand over here no no

887
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,480
stand over here smile real big and and

888
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,640
the audience would reconnect later that

889
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:32,799
i touched him a lot after the trick and

890
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,960
he sat down i would say here's your

891
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,720
wallet here's your keys here's your

892
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,559
credit cards you know here's your cell

893
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:40,640
phone and the audience will get a huge

894
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,519
laugh out of it not realizing that was

895
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,320
all a setup i i didn't i didn't and it

896
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:48,159
was great because i got credit for being

897
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,600
this expert pickpocketer but the reality

898
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,440
was that stuff was just in my pocket

899
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:55,200
from the beginning of the show

900
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:58,799
and that guy was in on the joke you know

901
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:01,360
he could just as easily just as easily

902
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,640
this guy could have some guy in a suit

903
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:06,960
making bigfoot noises a hundred yards

904
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,679
away right and running back and forth in

905
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,440
the woods so people see something

906
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,480
running

907
00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:14,880
on two legs or yeah i i think it's very

908
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,880
possible and we've seen we were talking

909
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,559
about the similarities between this and

910
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:20,080
the ufo community

911
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,519
we've seen

912
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:23,360
stuff like that you know we've got dr

913
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,720
stephen greer using flares to hoax ufos

914
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:29,200
we've got uh james gilead is being

915
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,240
accused of hoaxing ufo experiences and

916
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,640
and again in both those situations

917
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,399
people pay money and they're hoping to

918
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,320
have that ufo experience in todd

919
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,240
stanning's case people are paying this

920
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:41,760
money and they're hoping to have a

921
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:44,399
bigfoot experience

922
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,600
exactly yeah and yeah again who i'll

923
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,840
tell you i mean what researchers

924
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:51,440
in america are gonna you know go to

925
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,039
canada to try to hang out with todd

926
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:56,320
stanley i know yeah you know i i i would

927
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,880
invite me though i'll tell you why

928
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,320
this part i hopefully he doesn't hear

929
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:01,519
this

930
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:04,799
we're going to make sure that you

931
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:07,760
contact him or we try to get this going

932
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,919
before this airs remember this is

933
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,919
pre-recorded not live so

934
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:13,839
he's not going to hear any of this

935
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,480
well here's the thing it's too late

936
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:18,159
it'll be too late by the time he hears

937
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,629
back in the day when i was uh

938
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,480
you know

939
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:28,480
a fan of fade to black

940
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,320
uh and i was getting into the bigfoot

941
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:32,240
thing i would occasionally call jimmy

942
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:33,520
and say man you got to get this guy on

943
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,320
your show this is a great story

944
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,000
and sometimes he would go for it

945
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,560
sometimes he would and it just depended

946
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:41,839
and uh

947
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,240
and i says uh he goes who do you know in

948
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,639
bigfoot that who's who's who can you get

949
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,879
me for bigfoot so i named a couple

950
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,399
people and then i named todd sandy he

951
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,520
goes yeah i want to talk to todd

952
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:53,280
standing can you get todd standing on my

953
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,320
shirt

954
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,480
jimmy church is all in on this [\h__\h]

955
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,480
probably yeah i'm sure yeah well

956
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:00,320
actually this will be interesting this

957
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,160
is interesting this conversation that so

958
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,720
anyway so i i got a whole i sent i got

959
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,720
uh i got standing to friend me on

960
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,240
facebook

961
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:10,480
and uh finally it took a long time it

962
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,480
wasn't like he just instantly accepted

963
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,680
my request it might have been like a

964
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,200
month and a half before he accepted my

965
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,800
friendship request

966
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,560
and then then i had a little chat with

967
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,400
him i kept it real

968
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,079
simple basic

969
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,000
i didn't come across like a fanboy or a

970
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,480
skeptic or anything i said yeah i just

971
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:28,079
i'd really like to get you on paid to

972
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:31,599
black and hear your story and uh

973
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,400
he

974
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:34,079
you're gonna laugh at this

975
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:40,390
well most people don't yeah i think you

976
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,680
know maybe

977
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,359
well jimmy thinks that everybody knows

978
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,280
him that's what was funny because

979
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,839
because jimmy legend in his own mind

980
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:49,520
exactly

981
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,839
so jimmy i go jimmy i go did you get a

982
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,920
hold of standing and he goes yeah i go

983
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,440
is he going to be on the show he goes

984
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,240
yeah i got him booked i go well

985
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:59,839
how'd it go and he goes well i don't

986
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:00,880
know

987
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,880
[\h__\h] crushed by that he wasn't you

988
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,240
know what i mean he just

989
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,320
he was he was almost like not interested

990
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,960
in interviewing stan uh stan uh todd

991
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:17,520
standing after he realized that standing

992
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:19,119
didn't even know who he was because he

993
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,480
because standing wasn't impressed with

994
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,880
him he kind of lost his interest in it

995
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,079
you know what i'm saying it was weird it

996
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,480
was kind of weird but anyway

997
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,880
we did have them on the show and uh you

998
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,720
might if you feel like it go listen to

999
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,240
that interview it was a good one i'm

1000
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,680
going to be i'm going to check it out

1001
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,200
yeah we can maybe

1002
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,280
jimmy didn't just lay down for the guy i

1003
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,760
mean he did try to uh

1004
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:41,280
he did try to give him some tough

1005
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,720
questions he gave us some tough

1006
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:44,000
questions

1007
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,760
at the end i called jimmy like a day or

1008
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,359
two later and i said so what do you

1009
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:53,599
think and uh

1010
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,480
he i basically we both agreed that we

1011
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,320
thought he was full of [\h__\h]

1012
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,079
you know that was it that was his

1013
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,520
opinion too which was interesting for

1014
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:03,599
one time i might agree with that guy

1015
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:04,640
yeah

1016
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:07,520
so i guess the next step is i'm gonna

1017
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,800
ask you

1018
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:10,560
we'll talk off air but we're gonna try

1019
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,599
to set up to see if you can get closer

1020
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,440
to this guy or maybe go on one of his

1021
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,440
hikes with him or something

1022
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,119
and and uh

1023
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,119
that would be awesome because then we'll

1024
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,720
get to see first

1025
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,560
i want to know how much it costs to go

1026
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,200
on this stuff with him yeah i'd like to

1027
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:29,119
talk to some people he claims

1028
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,480
everybody's having these bigfoot

1029
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,920
experiences he should be able to give us

1030
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,599
a list of people we could interview

1031
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,680
about their bigfoot experiences that

1032
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,839
they had by paying him right i would

1033
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,680
think so

1034
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,920
well i'm gonna guess that he's like kind

1035
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,119
of like

1036
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:44,960
he does the same thing that like wilcock

1037
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,000
and good do where they they kind of uh

1038
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,160
they block you from really doing a

1039
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:52,320
thorough investigation they kind of

1040
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,560
controlled things their own little in

1041
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,320
their own little strange way like like

1042
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,320
corey did in the beginning when he had

1043
00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,920
the only person that he would interview

1044
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,640
with was teresa yaneros

1045
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,079
sure you know what i mean that

1046
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,400
concerning situation yeah it kind of

1047
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,920
controls the whole thing that way and i

1048
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,280
think todd's

1049
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,520
kind of doing the same thing

1050
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,119
let me ask you another question because

1051
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,440
i want your opinion on this and to be

1052
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,520
completely and totally fair

1053
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,520
i i think i've decided that what i'm

1054
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,079
gonna do is i'm gonna finish this entire

1055
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:24,160
production video on this

1056
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,119
on this

1057
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,640
and then i'm gonna and then i'm gonna

1058
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,640
send it to him and i'm gonna ask him to

1059
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,960
do an interview to end it i think that's

1060
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,359
fair right you i could say here's what

1061
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,760
all the experts that i got said about

1062
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,359
your footage

1063
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,440
this is what everybody thinks now i'd

1064
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,440
like to talk to you personally

1065
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,599
and you can we can talk about this i i

1066
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,760
think that's the fairest way to do it

1067
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,200
okay i'm gonna tell you this right now

1068
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,839
and you leave this on the air okay leave

1069
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,040
this on your show

1070
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:53,839
i will send you 500

1071
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,720
if he agrees to do an interview with you

1072
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:58,160
well there you go well i could offer to

1073
00:39:01,829 --> 00:39:00,079
give it to him and then he'll know he'll

1074
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,839
be more likely to do it

1075
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,079
i i think he's going to sidestep you i

1076
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,960
i'm not i i'm not because okay so yeah

1077
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,040
i'll give you i'll give you 500 because

1078
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,119
there's no way he'll do that steve

1079
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:12,960
especially i don't think he'll do it

1080
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,560
tell you but if you could convince him

1081
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:15,760
to do it

1082
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:21,280
i will i listen i have never

1083
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,320
i have never been afraid to ask you know

1084
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,720
yeah there are some people that i never

1085
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,480
thought i would get to talk to but i

1086
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,800
said i'm gonna ask him and see what

1087
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:32,640
happens and you'd be surprised how many

1088
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,640
people say yeah you know if he doesn't

1089
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,560
know who certain people in this thing

1090
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,960
are already then chances are he doesn't

1091
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:40,560
know about me or

1092
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,359
or or whatever and and may not have the

1093
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,200
time to research me thoroughly i don't

1094
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,040
know there's a lot of variables but i

1095
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,800
will ask him i give you my word i will

1096
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,560
ask him to be honest with you i don't

1097
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:51,839
know we'll see i don't know if he's

1098
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,520
gonna try to like uh

1099
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:55,680
like if i were a hoaxer and i was trying

1100
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,200
to maintain my uh my scam let's just say

1101
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,599
um and somebody like you contacted me

1102
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:03,760
trust me i would vet you and i would try

1103
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:05,920
to figure out if if this is a good idea

1104
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,720
and if i and then i would realize

1105
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:10,240
it's not a good idea because you're just

1106
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,839
gonna blow my cover

1107
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,280
you know what i'm saying yeah that's

1108
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,720
what i think that's what i think might

1109
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,720
happen but luckily maybe he won't

1110
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,480
connect the dots between you and me and

1111
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,160
you'll be able to get in there and and

1112
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:22,319
get the job done that's what i hope for

1113
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:23,119
this

1114
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,800
so i i might have to wait either i got

1115
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,240
to think about this either i should go

1116
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,319
at it right away or i should wait maybe

1117
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,160
a few months and then contact him so let

1118
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:32,000
some time go by

1119
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,960
we're going to

1120
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,800
talk about we'll talk about it out there

1121
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,119
yeah okay well listen i i definitely

1122
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,119
appreciate you doing this

1123
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,920
and your participation is much as much

1124
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,680
needed to get to the bottom of this

1125
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:45,280
that's why i brought you in because i

1126
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,560
figured